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N&V-L Digest 488 - 6 Jun 1999
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........................................................
What sculpture is to a block of marble, education is to
the soul.
--Joseph Addison
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There are 5 messages in this digest.
1. Legal English
2. Phonetics teacher required
3. Upcoming short courses
4. First Southern Meeting of English Teachers
5. Use of songs in the EFL Classroo
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1. Legal English
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A recent posting on TESP-L suggested having a look at the
http://dumblaws.com/ site for some light-hearted reading practice.
It details some of the whackier legislation some stateshave come up
with and contains short but authentic examples of legal terminology.
Check them through first as one or two of the examplesare of "an adult
nature" as the BBC might say.
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
**
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2. Phonetics teacher required
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I am interested in finding a teacher of Phonetics at Profesorado
level to offer private tutoring to a small group of former students
of mine who are currently taking Phonetics I at Universidad deLa
Plata and experiencing some difficulty.
Does anyone know who can help them? Travelling to BA orany other
area of the Suburbs is no problem.
Many thanks!
Posted by: Maria Laura Terrone
mailto:laura-terrone@unete.com.ar
**
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3. Upcoming short courses
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Teaching Business English using the task-based approach
Duration: 8 hours /4 two-hour meetings
Days & time: Tuesdays 10.30-12.30
Start date: June 15, 22, 29. July 6
Tutor: Silvana Ioli
Venue: Av. L.N. Alem 424 PB
Stress for success
Duration: 1 four-hour session
Days & time: July 3, 1999 9.00-1.00 p.m.
Facilitator: Ricardo Cavallini
Venue: Av. L.N. Alem 424 PB
Posted by: Silvana Ioli
mailto:interaction@movi.com.ar
**
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4. First Southern Meeting of English Teachers
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First Southern Meeting of English Teachers
Bahia Blanca. October 8 to 10.
Call for participation and proceedings
The main topic of this meeting being Applied Linguistics,proposals
should deal with classroom practices, research in language learning
and teaching, the use of technology in the classroom or any other
topic relevant to ELT.
All professionals interested in participating are requiredto submit
proposals for workshops and semiplenaries. Lecturers should send
three copies of their abstracts (50-100 words) and biodata (50words)
on A4 paper size. The following information is also required:kind of
presentation and approximate duration, estimated number of participants,
audiovisual equipment and any other resources needed. If theremight
be any additional information which is considered to be relevant,
it should also be stated in the proposal.
Deadline for presentation of papers: July 30, 1999
Important:
* The number of workshops is limited.
* The decision of the organising committee as to the acceptanceof
presentations will be final.
Posted by: Ana María Pettinari
Las Heras 71 - 1° "D" (8000) Bahía Blanca
TE./FAX: 0291-4563166
mailto:apibb@impsat1.com.ar
**
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5. Use of songs in the EFL Classroom
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I am looking for books, articles or WWW pages on the useof songs in
the language classroom. Could anybody help? My eternal gratitudewill
go to those who give me a hand (I have eternal gratitudes to spare,
so there will be enough to go round!)
Pablo Toledo
<mailto:toledo@movi.com.ar>mailto:toledo@movi.com.ar
**
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N&V-L Digest 489 - 10 Jun 1999
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...........................................................
Education is that which discloses to the wise and disguises
from the foolish their lack of understanding.
--Ambrose Bierce
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There are 4 messages in this digest.
1. 'Steel Magnolias' by Peter Harling
2. Songs in the classroom
3. University issues
4. Workshop in Padua
**
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1. 'Steel Magnolias' by Peter Harling
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The Suburban Players will be opening with Peter Harling's
play "Steel Magnolias" on 18th June. The film "Floresde
Acero" is based reasonably closely on the script except
that the whole play takes place in the Hairdresser's
Salon and we see only the six women.
It is suitable for post FCE and advanced learners,
particularly the more mature students, as the theme is serious
and the language sophisticated. This is not to deny its humorous
and endearing nature and the artistic vision of the Director,
Federico Spoliansky, but rather to be realistic in terms of
students' receptive abilities. As the film is readily
available here you may want to introduce your students to
the language via this medium as a pre- listening activity.
Dates: June 18th - July 11th on Fridays and Saturdays
at 9pm. and Sundays at 5 pm.
Venue: The Playhouse, Moreno 80, San Isidro.
Cost: $10 per person.
Bookings: In advance only and pick up at the door
30 mins before the start of the performance,
on the night
Contact: Ronnie Jacobs, Tel 4799-5660 or 4747-4470
Posted by Susan Hillyard
Secondary Head, Nightingale School.
mailto:hillyard@ciudad.com.ar
**
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2. Songs in the classroom
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Sites related to songs in the EFL classroom
I have come across these sites, I hope they can be usefulto anyone out
there.
Peter and Karen Viney´s article on the use of songs
http://www.viney.uk.com/resources/songarticle/songart.htm
MUSIC (educational use of songs)
http://www.wpe.com/~musici/about.htm
Musical English Lessons has lots of lessons for The Beatles´songs
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MusicalEnglishLessons
Posted by: Vicky Saumell
mailto:vicky.saumell@141.com
**
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3. University issues
---------------------
It surprises me the little attention we pay to one of the
distinctive characteristics of university life: that of
PROFESSIONALISM. Either out of friendship or just because
we work together, we are very well acquainted with our
colleagues´intellectual backgrounds, ideas and even hopes
for the future. But, sadly to say, we know very little
about our Deans, Headmasters, or Managers, whatever the
name given to the person who is in charge of taking the
crucial decisions. Professionalism is wanting in most cases.
Are there any regulations stating the profile such a person
must fulfil? Could we possibly evaluate them in the same
way our students evaluate us when the semester ends? I
wonder...
Not too long ago, as I was looking for a post as a teacher
of English, I sent my C.V.to a private university which
prides itself upon being the only one whose graduate students
are "bilingual".Great was my surprise when I learntthat a
so called "coordinator of English Courses" was not aprofessional
- in any area - at all. Still worse, other famous long-standing
institutions which offer English, French, German and Portuguese
courses, have nobody in charge of their organization. Teachers
assigned to this courses follow their conscience, which is better,
in the end, than complying to the rules of a high-ranked secretary.
Although I´m not telling you a new story, I insistthat it is
essential we start doing something to improve our field of work.
Knowing that our salaries will remain as low as ever, the least
we can try to achieve is a rise on PROFESSIONALISM.
Posted by: Liliana Williams
Mendoza
mailto:williams@logos.uncu.edu.ar
**
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4. Workshop in Padua
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CR Inglés in San Antonio de Padua announces the
following workshop:
Title: Verbal and Non-verbal games and skills
Lecturer: Cecilia Ramirez de Ricci
Date: June 19th (Saturday) 10 am to 1 pm.
Place: CR Ayacucho 610 Padua, Prov. Bs. As.
Fee: $15
Vacancies: limited
Contact: cr@infovia.com.ar, Tel: 0220- 4859714
Posted by: Adriana Díaz
Secretary of CR Inglés
mailto:cr@infovia.com.ar
**
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N&V-L Digest 490 - 15 Jun 1999
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...................................................
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
--Derek Bok
...................................................
There are 7 messages in this digest.
1. The 'zipped_files.exe' virus
2. Studying in the UK
3. Estuary English - an URL
4. Marketing and Technology Workshop
5. Poetry of Clive Wilmer
6. ELT News & Views - issue 6.2
7. Do you want to be included in our registers ?
**
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1. The 'zipped_files.exe' virus
-------------------------------
Like all list members I receive lost of virus hoaxes most
of which I ignore. However, as a serious list administrator
I would be amiss if I did not warn list members of a new and
dangerous 'virus' which attacks PC Windows 95, Windows 98 and
Windows NT. Macintosh and Unix users are apparently not
affected but can unwittingly pass on messages containing the
'virus'.
This is actually a 'trojan horse'. Beware of any attachment
labeled "zipped_files.exe" and DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT.The best thing you can do is simply to delete the message
together with the attachment. (The message containing the
attachment could be anything and have any subject line -
what you have to look out for is the name of the attachment).
Believe me (and I have consulted about this) and in anycase
take a trip to:
http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/worm.explore.zip.html
where you can find out about a small utility program, KILL_EZ,
which does what it sounds as if it ought to.
The URL above is on the Symantec web site and can be trusted.
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
**
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2. Studying in the UK
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I'm a Profesorado student and I'm thinking of travellingto
the UK next Summer (January-February). I would like to attend
a short and interesting course aimed at teachers of English.
Does anybody know about courses with those characteristics?
Thanks in advance for any information.
Posted by: Silvina Garcia
mailto:silvina72@yahoo.com
[ Replies in this case to the poster please - they willnot be
posted on this list - List Editor ]
**
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3. Estuary English - an URL
---------------------------
If you want to find out about EE, try the London University
site, which provides an extensive and informative account.
http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/estuary/home.htm
Posted by: Ron White
Centre for Applied Language Studies
University of Reading
mailto:r.v.white@reading.ac.uk
**
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4. Marketing and Technology Workshop
------------------------------------
BEWEnglish/HYPERMEDIA 2000 announces the following workshop:
Title: Successful Marketing Strategies for Institutes and
Teachers of English
Brief Description:
A unique workshop for all those teachers who want
to succeed in the extremely competitive English market.
Competition analysis, information gathering and filtering,
advertising techniques, fund management, professional
selling techniques, institutional image, etc.
Lecturers: Betty Wolff/Marcelo Rodeiro/Gustavo Macagno
Date: August 21st and August 28th (Saturday) 2 pm to 7:30pm
Place: BEWEnglish/HYPERMEDIA 2000
Juncal 2530, 01425 Ciudad de Buenos Aires
Fee: $120
Vacancies: limited
Contact: <betty@giga.com.ar>. Tel: 4825-0303. Fax:4821-3572
Posted by: Betty Wolff
Director of Studies
http://members.xoom.com/bettywolff/Marketingdelingles.htm
mailto:betty@giga.com.ar
**
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5. Poetry of Clive Wilmer
-------------------------
Clive Wilmer, MA. Freelance writer and lecturer and memberof the
Faculty of English at the University of Cambridge has published
four collections of his own poetry and is well known as a literary
critic, broadcaster editor and verse translator from several languages.
He has participated in five ESU Cultural Seminars and directedtwo
of them.
Venue: Salón de Conferencias, IES en Lenguas Vivas
"J.R. Fernandez", Carlos Pellegrini 1455, Capital
Date: Friday, 18th June, at 6 pm
Admission: Free
Please confirm attendance at Tel/Fax 4552-0497
Thank you very much for your help in spreading the word.
posted by: Gaby Masson
mailto:gaby.masson@usa.net
**
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6. ELT News & Views - issue 6.2
-------------------------------
We shall be mailing the June 1999 issue of 'ELT News &Views'
on 20 June. If you have not renewed your subscription there
is still time to do so - contact <admin@eltnewsandviews.com.ar>
or phone Nathalie at (54-11) 4371-7705 Mon - Thurs, 15 - 18.00
hours.
Alternatively you can download a subscription/renewal formfrom
http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar/Download/download.html
Our March 99 issue was sold out before it was mailed becauseso
many subscribers left renewal to the last moment (in fact toolate),
so we suggest you contact us now if you do not want to be leftout.
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
**
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7. Do you want to be included in our registers ?
------------------------------------------------
ELT News & Views is at present building up a databaseof
information for inclusion in its printed directories and
on its website.
This service is free and access will also be free to all
subscribers of N&V-L and ELT News & Views (and anyoneelse
accessing the web site).
At this stage we are collecting information in these
areas:
a) Argentine web sites specialising in English language
teaching or the provision of services related to the
teaching of English. (Please send URL of home page
and a brief description).
b) details of any courses at post-graduate level in Argentina
in English language, ELT, Applied Linguistics, Translation
studies or related areas (on-site or distance)
c) 'bridge' courses that 'convert' an oldstyle teachingdiploma
to a 'licentiatura'.
d) joint ventures in which an Argentine institution hasentered
into an agreement with a university or similar institution
in another country (on-site or distance) for the provision of
courses at any level and of any kind relating to the teaching
of English language, ELT, Applied Linguistics, Translation
studies or related areas
We should be grateful for any information received in theseareas,
which will be made available as stated above.
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
**
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N&V-L Digest 491 - 22 Jun 1999
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...............................................................
Education is the period during which I was being instructed by
somebody I did not know, about something I did not want to know.
--G. K. Chesterton
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There are 3 messages in this digest.
1. Teacher and Students' Conference cancelled
2. Online ESP workshop
3. Language Query
**
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1. Teacher and Students' Conference cancelled
---------------------------------------------
The 'Comisión Organizadora' of the 7º CongresoAnual de
Profesores, Traductores y Estudiantes de Ingles has today
announced that the event, scheduled to take place in Jujuy
on 8, 9 & 10 October, has been cancelled.
Forwarded by: List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
**
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2. Online ESP workshop
----------------------
PRECONVENTION ONLINE WORKSHOP ON ESP
(English for Specific Purposes)
TESOL Third Regional Southern Cone Conference
July 12th through August 7th ,1999
Content Expert: Emily Lites
Technology and Pedagogic advisor: Mercedes Rossetti
On behalf of the English for Specific Purposes InterestSection
of ARTESOL we are pleased to invite you to participate in this
distance professional development workshop. It is intended for
English as a Foreign Language teachers and practitioners who want
to expand their background with knowledge of English for Specific
Purposes.
This experience will provide ESP practitioners throughoutLatin
America with the opportunity to have access to professional
development without leaving their home or office.
The objectives of this workshop are:
* To Identify the different realities in ESP teaching worldwide,
reflect on the local and Latin American reality and agree on
realistic strategies.
* The production of ESP materials for the reality of teachingESP
and reflection on common issues and diverging realities.
* The creation of a development and cooperation networkof
professionals among ESP teachers and practitioners in the Southern
Cone.
The workshop will last four weeks (from Monday, July 12till Monday,
August 7th 1999), and is split in 4 one-week modules with an overall
total of 30 periods.
Hardware requirements: a PC with either Netscape or InternetExplorer
programs, connection to the World Wide Web and an e-mail addressthat
can be checked regularly.
Final evaluation will consist of the delivery via emailof a paper.
Participants will be evaluated on the level of meaningful participation
in course activities and the quality of their project work.
This workshop is absolutely free and is open to 40 participants.
Register sending an email to <espisartesol@arnet.com.ar>
or from http://members.xoom.com/espisartesol
and send a brief outline of your activities and interests.
Registration closes Friday June 28.
Posted by: Liliana & Patricia Orsi
Rainbow Practical English Teaching
Telefax: (54-11)4243-6570 Phone: (54-11) 4292-7495
mailto:rainboworsi@arnet.com.ar
**
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3. Language Query
-----------------
I am trying to solve a language query, and as I cannotfind the
solution to my question in books, I have decided to conduct an
informal survey among some friends.
I am interested in the use of tenses after "time"in the expression
"It/This ...the first time ..."
I think the problem arises when the action mentioned hasnot begun yet.
In other words, to me it is OK to say
It´s the first time I've travelled by plane.
(Simple Present + Present Perfect)
if, say, you are on the plane, or getting on it, or ifyou have just
got off it - or something like that. The same would apply forthe
combination: Simple Past + Past Perfect.
But what would you say if you are not travelling, or havenot travelled
yet, but you are going to travel, say, tonight or tomorrow andyou are
very nervous because this is your first flight. (Idem for thefuture in
the past)
Eg
1) I'm leaving tonight. I'm very anxious since this/itis the first
time...........
2) I was leaving the following morning. I was very anxiousbecause
that/it was the first time....
Can I use in 1)
...since this is the first time I'll be travelling by plane
and in 2)
....I would be travelling by plane?
I would not use the present perfect, or past perfect, respectively,
in these cases. Or should I?
What would happen if I used a simple future instead ofthe simple present
before "first time"?
1)...I'm anxious since it will be the first time....
2)...I was anxious since it would be the first time...
Michael Vince, in "Advanced Language Practice"(A Grammar Book we use at
college) Unit 5, Ex. 9 b, shows the following paraphrase:
b) This will be the team's first match outside England.
This will be the first time ...
Key: This will be the first time the team HAS PLAYED outsideEnglish.
So far I have got three possible answers to the same sentence(sentence b)
with "will future" before "first time",
* present perfect (in Vince's book)
* future perfect (version provided by a an English N/S)
* simple present (version provided by a an English N/S)
Any comments ?
Posted by: Viviana Myslicki
mailto:hmlopez@infovia.com.ar
**
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N&V-L Digest 492 - 28 Jun 1999
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The foundation of every state is the education of its youth.
-- Diogenes
............................................................
There are 5 messages in this digest.
1. IH seminar - Lexical Update
2. New 'Licenciatura' in English Language
3. Looking for BELTA
4. September Seminar in Misiones
5. School furniture for sale
**
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1. IH seminar - Lexical Update
------------------------------
International House Buenos Aires announces that this sessionwill
be given on June 26 (9.30 to 12.30). A critical look at new
developments in teaching vocabulary and the use of L1.
Venue: International House
Pacheco de Melo 2555, Capital Federal
Cost. $15
For further information contact International House
tel: (11) 4805-6393/4801-5954
Posted by Sophie Sengenberger
mailto:melo@internet.siscotel.com
**
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2. New 'Licenciatura' in English Language
-----------------------------------------
As from August 1999 St. Trinnean's University College
offers the Licenciatura en Lengua Inglesa
The degree is awarded by the Universidad Argentina de la
Empresa (UADE).
Further information: Avellaneda 450 1642 San Isidro
Tel. # 4742-7268 Fax # 4732-2929
Monday / Friday from 5:30 to 9:30 pm.
email University@strinidad.edu.ar
Posted by: Georgie Roberston Gunn
mailto:gunn@strinidad.edu.ar
**
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3. Looking for BELTA
--------------------
I am trying to contact BELTA in Brazil. They are the Brazilian
Education and Language Travel Association. Could someone please
send me their Fax and email addresses. A Website address, too,
if available.
Thanks!
Posted by: Howard J. Dooley
Emailto:howard.dooley@wmich.edu
**
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4. September Seminar in Misiones
--------------------------------
NILE and the English Department, UNaM announce a seminaron
Friday 17th and Saturday 18th September 1999 - 9 a.m. to7.30 p.m.
"REJECTING THE CINDERELLA SYNDROME -
Key areas of professional development for language teachers
who want to progress beyond the merely adequate"
This seminar will address areas where new perspectives can bring
significant gains for teachers and learners if adopted. They can
continue to be neglected by many teachers simply because theyhave
never been given the opportunity to understand the issues andexplore
the possibilities in their own workplace contexts.
Participants will have the chance to add important newdimensions
to their professional repertoire.
a) "KEY ISSUES IN TESTING & ASSESSMENT IN ELT":lectures, discussions
and workshops
Coordinator: Dave Allan
b) "DISCOURSE: SPEAKING AND WRITING IN EFL":workshops
"Bringing Discourse Analysis into the Classroom"
"Have Fun as you Write"
Coordinator: Laura Renart
Fees (including prior reading material)
Up to Friday August 13th 1999
Certificate of attendance: $ 50
Certificate of attendance + evaluation $ 60
Up to September 6th. 1999
Certificate of attendance: $ 60
Certificate of attendance + evaluation $ 70
Students $ 20 (25 vacancies)
(the sponsorship of the Ministry of Education of the Provinceof
Misiones has been requested)
(attendance: 20 periods - attendance + evaluation:50 periods)
Limited vacancies
For registration and further information contact:
Area Organizadora de Eventos Depto. Turismo Facultad de Humanidades
y Ciencias Sociales- Universidad Nacional de Misiones
1946 Tucuman St. - 2nd. Floor - 3300 POSADAS Misiones
Telephone: 03752 425641 Ext. 29 (8a.m. to 12a.m. and 4p.m.to 8 p.m.)
Fax: 03752 427519
E-mail: eventos@fhycs.unam.edu.ar
Posted by: Cristina Mayol
Head of English Department, UNaM
mailto:cmayol@fceqyn.unam.edu.ar
**
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5. School furniture for sale
----------------------------
I have been asked by a school in central Buenos Aires (theowner does
not have email) if anyone wants to buy some 40 'sillas universitarias'
in good condition, any reasonable offer considered.
Please reply to me directly - Tel: 4371-7705. Thanks.
Posted by: Martin Eayrs
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
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N&V-L Digest 493 - 29 Jun 1999
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............................................................
Every man who rises above the common level has received two
educations: the first from his teachers; the second, more
personal and important, from himself.
--Edward Gibbon
.............................................................
There are 4 messages in this digest.
1. International Teachers Congress, Arica, Chile
2. Essarp is moving
3. Business English seminar (Buenos Aires)
4. language query
**
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1. International Teachers Congress, Arica, Chile
------------------------------------------------
I have received the following call for participation thatI want to
share with list members.
VI International Congress of Teachers of English, Universidadde
Tarapaca, Arica, Chile, October 13-15, 1999.
Contact: Emilio Verdugo, <everdugo@llareta.dagh.uta.cl>
Posted by: Miguel Farias
mailto:mfarias@lauca.usach.cl
**
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2. Essarp is moving
-------------------
ESSARP is moving to larger premises.
When? 12th July, 1999
Where? Esmeralda 672, 7th floor (Esmeralda & Viamonte)
(1007) Capital Federal.
1 block away from Lavalle underground station (Line C)
5 blocks away from Carlos Pellegrini underground station (LineB)
5 blocks away from 9 de Julio underground station (Line D)
Tel.: Centre: +54-11-4322-2480
Exams: +54-11-4322-9165
Fax: +54-11-4322-9203
Forwarded by: List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
**
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3. Business English seminar (Buenos Aires)
------------------------------------------
The English Language Center is pleased to announce thefollowing
seminar to be held on its premises:
Title: Setting up the Business English Course
Lecturer: Martin EAYRS
Date: Saturday, July 3 1999
Time: 10am-12.30pm
Venue: T.E.L. Center. Thames 511, Capital (1414)
For further details and enrolment please contact us byphone/fax:
(011) 4856-0020 or E-mail: <telcenter@infovia.com.ar>
Posted by: Viviana Myslicki
mailto:hmlopez@infovia.com.ar
**
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4. language query
-----------------
I'm trying to find the English words for: "figuritas"
(Rioplatense Edition of Oxford Dict. : Stickers ?),
"capelina" and "alfajor".
The English words for:
milanesas ................breaded veils ?
empanadas.................pies ?
dulce de leche ...........milk jam ?
cafe con leche ...........white coffee ?
Am I right? Do you know more ?
Thanks for your help.
Posted by: Viviana Suarez
mailto:vivisuarez.sion.com
**
end
...............................................................
Education is the period during which I was being instructed by
somebody I did not know, about something I did not want to know.
--G. K. Chesterton
...............................................................
There are 3 messages in this digest.
1. Teacher and Students' Conference cancelled
2. Online ESP workshop
3. Language Query
**
---------------------------------------------
1. Teacher and Students' Conference cancelled
---------------------------------------------
The 'Comisión Organizadora' of the 7º CongresoAnual de
Profesores, Traductores y Estudiantes de Ingles has today
announced that the event, scheduled to take place in Jujuy
on 8, 9 & 10 October, has been cancelled.
Forwarded by: List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
**
----------------------
2. Online ESP workshop
----------------------
PRECONVENTION ONLINE WORKSHOP ON ESP
(English for Specific Purposes)
TESOL Third Regional Southern Cone Conference
July 12th through August 7th ,1999
Content Expert: Emily Lites
Technology and Pedagogic advisor: Mercedes Rossetti
On behalf of the English for Specific Purposes InterestSection
of ARTESOL we are pleased to invite you to participate in this
distance professional development workshop. It is intended for
English as a Foreign Language teachers and practitioners who want
to expand their background with knowledge of English for Specific
Purposes.
This experience will provide ESP practitioners throughoutLatin
America with the opportunity to have access to professional
development without leaving their home or office.
The objectives of this workshop are:
* To Identify the different realities in ESP teaching worldwide,
reflect on the local and Latin American reality and agree on
realistic strategies.
* The production of ESP materials for the reality of teachingESP
and reflection on common issues and diverging realities.
* The creation of a development and cooperation networkof
professionals among ESP teachers and practitioners in the Southern
Cone.
The workshop will last four weeks (from Monday, July 12till Monday,
August 7th 1999), and is split in 4 one-week modules with an overall
total of 30 periods.
Hardware requirements: a PC with either Netscape or InternetExplorer
programs, connection to the World Wide Web and an e-mail addressthat
can be checked regularly.
Final evaluation will consist of the delivery via emailof a paper.
Participants will be evaluated on the level of meaningful participation
in course activities and the quality of their project work.
This workshop is absolutely free and is open to 40 participants.
Register sending an email to <espisartesol@arnet.com.ar>
or from http://members.xoom.com/espisartesol
and send a brief outline of your activities and interests.
Registration closes Friday June 28.
Posted by: Liliana & Patricia Orsi
Rainbow Practical English Teaching
Telefax: (54-11)4243-6570 Phone: (54-11) 4292-7495
mailto:rainboworsi@arnet.com.ar
**
-----------------
3. Language Query
-----------------
I am trying to solve a language query, and as I cannotfind the
solution to my question in books, I have decided to conduct an
informal survey among some friends.
I am interested in the use of tenses after "time"in the expression
"It/This ...the first time ..."
I think the problem arises when the action mentioned hasnot begun yet.
In other words, to me it is OK to say
It´s the first time I've travelled by plane.
(Simple Present + Present Perfect)
if, say, you are on the plane, or getting on it, or ifyou have just
got off it - or something like that. The same would apply forthe
combination: Simple Past + Past Perfect.
But what would you say if you are not travelling, or havenot travelled
yet, but you are going to travel, say, tonight or tomorrow andyou are
very nervous because this is your first flight. (Idem for thefuture in
the past)
Eg
1) I'm leaving tonight. I'm very anxious since this/itis the first
time...........
2) I was leaving the following morning. I was very anxiousbecause
that/it was the first time....
Can I use in 1)
...since this is the first time I'll be travelling by plane
and in 2)
....I would be travelling by plane?
I would not use the present perfect, or past perfect, respectively,
in these cases. Or should I?
What would happen if I used a simple future instead ofthe simple present
before "first time"?
1)...I'm anxious since it will be the first time....
2)...I was anxious since it would be the first time...
Michael Vince, in "Advanced Language Practice"(A Grammar Book we use at
college) Unit 5, Ex. 9 b, shows the following paraphrase:
b) This will be the team's first match outside England.
This will be the first time ...
Key: This will be the first time the team HAS PLAYED outsideEnglish.
So far I have got three possible answers to the same sentence(sentence b)
with "will future" before "first time",
* present perfect (in Vince's book)
* future perfect (version provided by a an English N/S)
* simple present (version provided by a an English N/S)
Any comments ?
Posted by: Viviana Myslicki
mailto:hmlopez@infovia.com.ar
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Human history becomes more and more a race between education
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There are 8 messages in this digest.
1. reply to language query (1)
2. reply to language query (2)
3. reply to language query (3)
4. reply to language query (4)
5. Michigan Proficiency
6. reply to language query (5)
7. reply to language query (6)
8. Business English Course
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In answer to Viviana Suarez:
I hope I can help with the word "capelina",accordingto Webster's
New Collegiate Dictionary(1977)the word is Petasos or Petasus:a
broad-brimmed low-crowned hat worn by ancient greeks and Romans;
esp. the winged hat of Hermes.
Kind regards,
Posted by: Juana Nicenboim
mailto:juanice@infovia.com.ar
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To <vivisuarez.sion.com>
We've searched for the English words you've requested forin The
Oxford Spanish Dictionary.
Here we go:
Milanesa (de ternera ): breaded veal cutlet
empanadas: pasty or pie
dulce de leche: caramel spread
capelina: wide-brimmed-hat
figuritas: picture cards or stickers
alfajor: 'alfajor'
Hope you find them useful!
Posted by: Paula Coudannes & Marcela Castagnino.
mailto:Castagnm@oup.com.ar
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Regarding the following words (SouthEastern American usage):
"figuritas": if they are adhesive, they're "stickers",if they are
the collectible (non adhesive) ones, they're "cards"
"cafe con leche": I have only seen (and heard)"Coffe with milk" (as
opposed to "milk and coffee", the one had I learnedand that many
teachers use)
"dulce de leche": In a dulce de leche pot packedin Argentina for a
foreign market, I read "dairy spread". When they launchedthe product
in New York last year, the advertising campaign used "Dulcede Leche".
"empanadas": I have only seen the original word,"empanadas"
Posted by: Roberto Perez
mailto:rgpg@technologist.com
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Regarding Viviana Suarez's query:
I think "stickers" is OK for "figuritas",though you'll always
wonder what to call the ones that don't stick. I've never beenable to
find a better one, however. Moreover, "figuritas" istypically
Argentinian; in Spain they're "pegatinas" (the stickytype, name
translated literally from English) or "cromos" (thenon-sticky ones).
As for "milanesas", we always used to call them"cutlets" at home.
I have seen them in some menus (in Argentina) translated as "breadedveal"
- not VEIL, not countable, either. I've also seen them referredto in some
restaurants in the UK as "Wiener schnitzel", the German/Austrianname. But
the point is that people in the UK don't usually eat them.
"Alfajor": Don't know, really, but I do rememberthat Graham Greene in The
Honorary Consul referred to them as just that, "alfajores"(another
typically Argentinian one, by the way). They don't exist in other
countries. Perhaps you could describe them as "toffee-filledbiscuits".
"Milk jam" would mean nothing to someone in theUK, but how about saying
"soft toffee" (adding "for spreading" wherenecessary, as this is the
unusual part for a native English speaker, the fact that South
Americans eat it with bread or pancakes, whereas "caramelosde leche" are
"toffees", and are practically the same there as here).
"White coffee" is fine; regarding "capelina",I don't think there's any
special name for this style of hat, just "a wide-brimmedhat".
Posted by: Linda Yael
Balseiro Institute / 8400 Bariloche
mailto:linday@ib.cnea.gov.ar
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Can anyone tell me how to find out information about howto
take the Michigan Proficiency exam(s) in Argentina ?
Is there a local representative ? Are there many centres)
Is the exam popular here in ASrgentina ?¿
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar
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A small contribution to the posting by Viviana Suárez
I have noticed a British person I know (I don't want tosay "the British")
used the German "Wiener schnitzel" or simply "schnitzel"to refer to our
"milanesas"
I'm afraid there are no alfajores in the English-speakingcountries so that
I would use the word and explain what it is: how about "asweet made of two
round soft cookies held together with jam or (gosh, dulce de leche!)"
What brings me to dulce de leche: if you drop in at thenearest Sainsbury's
(a large supermarket chain in Britain) you can find a familiarlooking
brownish sweet in jars with the label "milk caramel spread"on them. Guess
what it is! Yes, you're right, it's dulce de leche. An Argentinefriend of
mine who lives in the UK spotted it so I wouldn't say it's a wellknown
product over there. "Milk jelly", the translation Havana(the alfajores
maker) chose to print on the tins of dulce de leche does not makemuch sense
to my NNS "feeling" for English. Does it to the NSswho are familiar with
dulce de leche?
Posted by: Mario LOPEZ BARRIOS
mailto:lopez@powernet.com.ar
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Language query
As far as I know milanesas could be "breaded veal"in any case.
I´ve heard "caramel" for dulce de leche and theOxford-Duden Pictorial
English Dictionary gives "slouch hat" for capelina.
As for figuritas, I think "trading cards" could be used.
I´m sorry about alfajor but I´ve never heard any translationfor it.
Posted by: Vicky Saumell
mailto:vicky.saumell@141.com
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